• gerbler@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          Labour hasn’t been a party of labour in decades. Sad times we live in.

        • TheThemFatale@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          Labour is ultimately just Tories with different colour ties. Neither support LGBTQ+ people. Either way, we will suffer.

        • Bleeping Lobster@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          Labour are walking a very, very difficult tightrope at the moment. Imo Keir has done pretty well at the balancing act. Of course I would love to see him put his head above the metaphorical parapet and shout about LGBT rights, but he must know full well that to do so right now is electoral suicide. The rightwing rags are just waiting for a chance to pounce and give him an ‘Ed and the bacon sandwich’ moment. Principles are worth nothing from the sidelines, I’m autistic so sometimes I see things very black-and-white, and to me this is a very clear case of having to suck it up and hold my nose, so we can slowly walk the country back to at least the centre, if not the left. We’re not going to do that overnight and maybe not even in one 5-yr term.

          The sad fact is, that our country has been radicalised by decades of ragsheet propaganda. We tried a ‘proper’ leftwing leader recently and the country rejected it, so I’m withholding my judgement until he’s had a year or two in power. Unfortunately it’s the least-shit option we have available right now (imo). The vast majority of the LP are decent people, with a few notable exceptions. The vast majority of the CP (ugh maybe that’s a bad acronym) are insufferable, selfish, nasty bastards who’re completely out of touch with the reality most of us exist in. I know which I’d rather be governed by.

        • Aux@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          I don’t think that Tories will go down. I live in Labour constituency and people here now are very anti Labour.

      • wiz@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        If it’s true that people vote for right wings out of frustration then the tables will turn again at some point because fundamentally most of the voting population have problems with unaffordable housing, low wages, poor healthcare, etc. and these problems are unlikely to be solved by a populist government.

    • Syrc@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Oh I can definitely believe that. Most Italians are very gullible and populism sounds way better than ideas grounded in reality. Not to mention her opponents all sucked and would rather split up in hundreds of parties rather than actually form a coalition and have a chance at winning.