The admin of sh.itjust.works has been approached but as of yet has failed to reply to concerned Lemmy users. I’m glad Beehaw admins look out for us by cutting off instances that host communities like this.

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    I do not agree with that at all, as a user you can block that community or the entire instance, but I do not want anyone to make that decision for me, I am an adult and I know how to distinguish toxic speech, but I also like to read ideas other than mine, however different and controversial they may be, I think that makes me think more about my own ideas and arguments. I would block blatant spam and clearly intentional fake news, but always to specific communities and never entire instances

    It is my opinion of course, for that there are different instances, to moderate each one in its own way. But I think if you massively block out everything you don’t like, you’ll end up in a room full of mirrors.

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      As a user you can hop instances and even have accounts on multiple ones.

      As an instance operator you can choose who you connect to and who you don’t.

      It’s maximum freedom for all.

      Are you familiar with Karl Popper’s paradox of tolerance? Might be worth a google. Tolerating intolerance is entirely unsustainable and when you do intolerance will win out.

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      At the end of the day, nothing of value is going to come from an instance that allows hate-based/troll communities to fester or metastasize.

      As an instance admin, it’s my choice to moderate mine as I see fit. Same for Beehaw or any other.

      That said, my instance is running on my own hardware, electricity, bandwidth, money, and time, so if I do not want to waste resources syncing that vile garbage, that is my right. If users on my instance have a problem with this, they know where the door is. 🎤

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        Ok ok, of course if the instance is yours you can do whatever you want, it can’t be any other way, I only give my opinion and luckily for both points of view there are various instances and as a winger anyone can even set up their own, that’s the best thing about the fediverse. I just wanted to make my point.

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      It isn’t really about the content and more about the users and moderation practices of other instances.

      If Beehaw mods don’t want to have to moderate users from poorly moderated instances, the best option is to defederate.

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      I agree with your outlook 100%. However, beehaw has made themselves a community intentionally to be safe for their like-minded members, which I also understand. It does get tiring to see hate spewed without much reason or direction.

      Your point is partially why I stuck with .ml rather than switching over to a different instance. I understand that they also have controversial instances blocked but it’s not like I can’t see them still.

      Rational thought takes a bit of effort for some people and its normally easier to either isolate or congregate.