- cross-posted to:
- news@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- news@lemmy.world
Summary
Israel conducted an airstrike in Syria, killing senior Hezbollah commander Ali Mussa Daqduq, who orchestrated the 2007 Karbala raid that killed five U.S. soldiers.
Militants, disguised as U.S. forces, breached a U.S.-Iraqi base, capturing and later killing four soldiers.
U.S. forces captured Daqduq in 2007, linking the attack to Iran’s Quds Force, but he was released by Iraq in 2012, sparking U.S. outrage.
After his release, Daqduq resumed leadership within Hezbollah.
Who is they?
How were ‘they’ defeated?
What does it mean to be defeated?
Hezbolla. There is no chance of them getting a favorable outcome through continued fighting.
Tell that to them in 2006.
They’ve won everything they have through fighting. Turns out that the Israeli’s, like every other occupying force in history, find being an occupying force to be utterly corrosive to their fighting capabilities. Right now, without air cover, they are nothing.
So you think Hezbollah should keep fighting at the expense of the local population until what? Do you think they will gain ground from Israel? What does a win for Hezbollah look like here?
They did not win anything in 2006. Israel suffered a few hundred losses and Lebanon suffered over 1100 deaths and massive infrastructure damage. I guess Hezbollah doesn’t see that as a loss because they don’t care about the civilians who live in Lebanon.
The local population for the south is Hezbollah. Or, rather, their very popular base of support is in southern Lebanon. The people in Beirut that Israel likes to bomb, because that is the only type of military operation they are good at, are not the power base of Hezbollah, and often are ideologically opposed to Hezbollah.
Remember, the reason Hezbollah exists is because Israel invaded southern Lebanon, and the people there greeted then as liberators at first (remember, southern Lebanon is ideologically not allied with the people of northern Lebanon, the demographics of Lebanon are what make it a basketcase politically) Until they realized that the Israeli’s were going to take over there and continue to oppress them. Thus was born Hezbollah who successfully drove the Israeli’s out, and then did so again in 2006. Frankly, they’re the best light infantry fighters in that part of the world by a long mile.
The majority of Israeli’s themselves view 2006 as a loss. So far, it looks like even the moderate Israeli’s are viewing this peace deal as a loss.
One of the stupidest ways of viewing who won a war is by looking at death counts.
By that view, America won the Vietnam war, and Nazi Germany defeated the Soviet Union.