Edit: on reflection we are squabbling over definitions here. Seems rather pointless, and I didn’t mean to be as … aggressive as I probably came across. I’ve just seen more than my share of people on Lemmy genuinely advocating for USSR style systems, so I probably overreacted a bit.
I get it. Generally people pushing for socialism aren’t pushing to be the USSR. Really what we mean is “Capitalism with really strong socialist safety nets”.
“Capitalism where you don’t die if you can’t produce” is the goal. “Capitalism where you’re still comfortable if you can’t produce” would be better, but I can’t imagine it happening in my lifetime.
There are a lot of tankies on here since Lemmy was created by self described tankies, so I get it. Most folks on Beehaw are much less aggressive and don’t believe that state sponsored violence is a good thing
Ah yes, Norway. The most oppressed nation on earth.
I think you have socialism confused with communism.
I think you have communism confused with totalitarianism
I didn’t want to confuse them. One small step of understanding at a time.
Norway is not and never was socialist.
Edit: on reflection we are squabbling over definitions here. Seems rather pointless, and I didn’t mean to be as … aggressive as I probably came across. I’ve just seen more than my share of people on Lemmy genuinely advocating for USSR style systems, so I probably overreacted a bit.
I get it. Generally people pushing for socialism aren’t pushing to be the USSR. Really what we mean is “Capitalism with really strong socialist safety nets”.
“Capitalism where you don’t die if you can’t produce” is the goal. “Capitalism where you’re still comfortable if you can’t produce” would be better, but I can’t imagine it happening in my lifetime.
There are a lot of tankies on here since Lemmy was created by self described tankies, so I get it. Most folks on Beehaw are much less aggressive and don’t believe that state sponsored violence is a good thing