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Yes. The First Amendment right supersedes any bullshit right to “privacy” in a public space. But that was never part of this discussion. They’re complaining about being recorded walking up to a door. Which will 100% always be someone else’s property and not public in the context of this discussion. So good job moving goalposts… even though that goalpost moving still doesn’t change the discussion at all.
They’re complaining about being recorded walking up to a door. Which will 100% always be someone else’s property and not public in the context of this discussion.
Why are you so angry? Damn. This is a privacy forum. So of course we want privacy! I’ll even grant you that a person who owns their home is allowed to record and archive every single moment of every single person who visits (creepy). But not every person owns their own home. As I mentioned, I currently rent, as do about 45 million households in the US. That’s the majority of all people under 35! So now that ownership isn’t an issue, is my neighbor allowed to record every time I go to work, get food delivered, see who visits me and when, etc? Their camera is pointed right at my doorway and activates every time I open it. Legally maybe, but that doesn’t make it right…
EDIT: Notice they’ll downvote me, but can’t back up their emotions with facts…
I downvoted you because you believe you can discern my feelings over text. Tone over text is notoriously hard to figure out… And I’m far from angry. If anything I’m disappointed that so many people believe they have a right that simply doesn’t exist. I do not make it a habit to respond to trolls who insinuate emotion when none is there to be divined.
I’ve also spend literally the whole thread proving everything I’ve stated. There is no “right” to privacy (outside of bathrooms and other private spaces [bedrooms as another example, but only in particular situations… baby monitors for example are not illegal] which is covered by law). There is an ultimate right to my own property… on which I install my cameras. Even if you believe you have a right to privacy, my rights to my property would supersede your rights on my private property regardless as you’d be committing a crime of trespassing at that point. Further we know that recording in public is 100% acceptable. Paparazzi use this right ALL the time. Including making a business on the matter of taking other people’s images while in public. You are not special. You do not have some magic right to privacy when in public or on someone else’s property.
The apartment scenario was not brought up initially and wasn’t brought up until many posts down. It’s irrelevant to the original discussion. But if you want to go to that point, I’d ask you to talk to your apartment managers. It’s their property to define rules on. No-one else can stipulate if it’s allowed or not. That’s it. If they declare the hallway/breezeway “public” then your neighbor has the de facto right to have a camera present. If they setup some other rule, then they as the property managers can block their right to record. Here’s a question for you though… Did you ask them to not record? Have you actually talked to your neighbor and voiced your concern in a reasonable way? They make kits to angle the camera 15-45 degrees off… you can ask them to install one of those so the camera doesn’t aim directly at your door. I would venture a guess you didn’t, you seem to have a hard time communicating in general as we see you do things like insinuate what emotions I’m writing from when it’s never clear in a pure text form.
2 days later Edit: Notice they’ll make a claim, and when forced to reconcile with their claim, they can’t back it up at all. 2 days to respond and they didn’t/can’t. Can’t even address the thread properly but has to go off on a wild tangent.
https://www.videomaker.com/article/15619-recording-in-public-places-and-your-first-amendment-rights/
Yes. The First Amendment right supersedes any bullshit right to “privacy” in a public space. But that was never part of this discussion. They’re complaining about being recorded walking up to a door. Which will 100% always be someone else’s property and not public in the context of this discussion. So good job moving goalposts… even though that goalpost moving still doesn’t change the discussion at all.
Why are you so angry? Damn. This is a privacy forum. So of course we want privacy! I’ll even grant you that a person who owns their home is allowed to record and archive every single moment of every single person who visits (creepy). But not every person owns their own home. As I mentioned, I currently rent, as do about 45 million households in the US. That’s the majority of all people under 35! So now that ownership isn’t an issue, is my neighbor allowed to record every time I go to work, get food delivered, see who visits me and when, etc? Their camera is pointed right at my doorway and activates every time I open it. Legally maybe, but that doesn’t make it right…
EDIT: Notice they’ll downvote me, but can’t back up their emotions with facts…
I downvoted you because you believe you can discern my feelings over text. Tone over text is notoriously hard to figure out… And I’m far from angry. If anything I’m disappointed that so many people believe they have a right that simply doesn’t exist. I do not make it a habit to respond to trolls who insinuate emotion when none is there to be divined.
I’ve also spend literally the whole thread proving everything I’ve stated. There is no “right” to privacy (outside of bathrooms and other private spaces [bedrooms as another example, but only in particular situations… baby monitors for example are not illegal] which is covered by law). There is an ultimate right to my own property… on which I install my cameras. Even if you believe you have a right to privacy, my rights to my property would supersede your rights on my private property regardless as you’d be committing a crime of trespassing at that point. Further we know that recording in public is 100% acceptable. Paparazzi use this right ALL the time. Including making a business on the matter of taking other people’s images while in public. You are not special. You do not have some magic right to privacy when in public or on someone else’s property.
The apartment scenario was not brought up initially and wasn’t brought up until many posts down. It’s irrelevant to the original discussion. But if you want to go to that point, I’d ask you to talk to your apartment managers. It’s their property to define rules on. No-one else can stipulate if it’s allowed or not. That’s it. If they declare the hallway/breezeway “public” then your neighbor has the de facto right to have a camera present. If they setup some other rule, then they as the property managers can block their right to record. Here’s a question for you though… Did you ask them to not record? Have you actually talked to your neighbor and voiced your concern in a reasonable way? They make kits to angle the camera 15-45 degrees off… you can ask them to install one of those so the camera doesn’t aim directly at your door. I would venture a guess you didn’t, you seem to have a hard time communicating in general as we see you do things like insinuate what emotions I’m writing from when it’s never clear in a pure text form.
2 days later Edit: Notice they’ll make a claim, and when forced to reconcile with their claim, they can’t back it up at all. 2 days to respond and they didn’t/can’t. Can’t even address the thread properly but has to go off on a wild tangent.