• doingthestuff@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Everyone hates Rand Paul but he voted no on this, as did others on the left and the right. Fuck fascism and fuck left authoritarianism.

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      8 months ago

      Rand Paul votes no on anything that allows the government to do anything. I doubt he even reads the bills.

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      8 months ago

      Neoliberals are conservatives. Always have been. By all international standards, the Democrat party is a conservative party and the Republicans are a more conservative party. We don’t currently have a viable left/progressive party.

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      8 months ago

      The entirety of the left-of-center in the US is a handfull of progressives, at most.

      By international standards Biden is hard-right, Trump is far-right.

      This shit is full-on rightwing authoritarianism.

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      8 months ago

      there are no left authoritarians in office.

      liberals are not leftists. haven’t been since 1848.

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        8 months ago

        Dunno why 1848, but those students on the streets of Vienna whom “dear father field marshal” Radetzky hanged on many lanterns were not leftist. They were pretty republican-nationalist, right liberal that is.

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            I don’t get your thought process. The original incidents were Soviet interventions in Hungary and Czechoslovakia.

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              sorry when I hear about a name from that language family I I st assume. I ignore most soviet history and as much american history as I can because its stupid and can be summarized ‘and then they figured out how to make even worse decisions! hooray!’

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          8 months ago

          Only the fringe lunatics think it’s even possible to disarm a population. Far lefties like myself realize the power that small arms represent in the fight against fascism. Marx said to arm up.

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            8 months ago

            fuck that dude about so much, but yeah, he wasnt wrong about everything.

            that means anti armor and anti drone weapons, too!

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            8 months ago

            Marx also assumed that revolution eventually leads to a communist utopia.

            Thus far they have only led to authoritarian regimes. Even Cuba is little more than a benevolent dictatorship.

            Weapons are a good way to combat other weapons, not ideology.

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      8 months ago

      Yeah, of my two reps (Utah), the one I dislike more voted no on this (Sen. Mike Lee), and the one I kinda like (Sen. Mitt Romney) voted yes. I’m not sure how to feel about this.

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          8 months ago

          tankies killed all the communists, then got named tankies for still defending killing all the communists again.

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          You can call yourself a leftist without actually espousing ideals reflecting it.

          Tankies aren’t leftist, they’re leftist cosplayers.

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            I actually watched recently a few videos on YT by Klim Zhukov (in Russian, naturally ; he’s a Tankie and a historian by education), and I’m not so certain.

            I may even agree than in some things they are more orthodox-Marxist than most western left movements.

            Now, by Tankies I mean Stalinists here.