One question. If they know those are minors and that they know that the pictures are nudes, why the hell don’t they just ban the accounts that try to send nudes to minors? Also who the hell thinks it is a good idea to send nudes to Meta?
Also who the hell thinks it is a good idea to send nudes to Meta?
It was eye-opening when I realized I’m the only one in my circle who gives a shit about online privacy. You and me and most of the Fediverse are a rare minority. This is normal to people now. If you told people in the 90s about this they’d rightfully call it a dystopia. I remember my mother being super paranoid about me going online back then. Boiling frog situation here.
Which is kinda funny because lemmy is really bad for privacy since pretty much everything is open. If you want to see how people vote, just make your own instance and collect it all.
Lemmy is relatively anonymous, but not private. It’s still way better than anything Meta does.
why the hell don’t they just ban the accounts that try to send nudes to minors?
Because they are sent from minors to minors too? Teens are horny, they copy adults making nudes, sometimes just sharing porn. Recently there were problems with classmates using pornLLM to undress their peers. The abuse problem is harsher, but I feel it’s the minority of nudes received by minors. Honestly, I’d have changed the EULA to forbid it on a public service like Insta, because unlike messengers there is everything to be deanonymized and explicitly targeted by an abuser, including stalking and threats IRL. For Insta, there could be a rule to ban uploading images to Direct of <18 y.o. users, only reposts, meaning they are publically availiable and may get reported by other users and brought down by existing policies without breaking E2EE.
This could be different depending on the country, but in Germany that would still be illegal. I don’t think a rule like you suggest would ever happen if not forced by law
I haven’t heard of that law be strictly enforced tho. For one reason - teens are stupid and don’t know laws, even though they fall under them. But yeah, most civilized places have laws against production of minor porn that doesn’t specify age, but can walk around the problem if it’s produced by a consenting party, of themselves, and without a big age difference.
The “problem” here (if you think so) is that if law enforcement in Germany gets to know about a case like this, they cannot choose themselves not to act on it.
If an 18 year old girl sends a spicy picture to her 17 year old boyfriend, that probably shouldn’t warrant the same reaction as a 15 year old receiving porn in her dms from some 40 year old stranger. Black and white thinking typically doesn’t lead to fair policies and implying that someone wants to creep on random children because they recognize that nuance exists seems a little disingenuous.
If an 18 year old girl sends a spicy picture to her 17 year old boyfriend
If the 17-year-old sends one back, that’s already a crime in many places. It could get him prosecuted for production and her for possession. If he uploads the picture to a chat group, the real fun starts.
The article says this is about nudity, not selfies. IDK how kids use instagram, but I’d guess that the senders are mainly kids sharing horny pics from somewhere else.
One question. If they know those are minors and that they know that the pictures are nudes, why the hell don’t they just ban the accounts that try to send nudes to minors? Also who the hell thinks it is a good idea to send nudes to Meta?
I would suspect because there is probably space for errors in the detection system
And also probably money. Banning users tends to make them not want to keep using your platform.
It was eye-opening when I realized I’m the only one in my circle who gives a shit about online privacy. You and me and most of the Fediverse are a rare minority. This is normal to people now. If you told people in the 90s about this they’d rightfully call it a dystopia. I remember my mother being super paranoid about me going online back then. Boiling frog situation here.
Which is kinda funny because lemmy is really bad for privacy since pretty much everything is open. If you want to see how people vote, just make your own instance and collect it all.
Lemmy is relatively anonymous, but not private. It’s still way better than anything Meta does.
Because they are sent from minors to minors too? Teens are horny, they copy adults making nudes, sometimes just sharing porn. Recently there were problems with classmates using pornLLM to undress their peers. The abuse problem is harsher, but I feel it’s the minority of nudes received by minors. Honestly, I’d have changed the EULA to forbid it on a public service like Insta, because unlike messengers there is everything to be deanonymized and explicitly targeted by an abuser, including stalking and threats IRL. For Insta, there could be a rule to ban uploading images to Direct of <18 y.o. users, only reposts, meaning they are publically availiable and may get reported by other users and brought down by existing policies without breaking E2EE.
This could be different depending on the country, but in Germany that would still be illegal. I don’t think a rule like you suggest would ever happen if not forced by law
I haven’t heard of that law be strictly enforced tho. For one reason - teens are stupid and don’t know laws, even though they fall under them. But yeah, most civilized places have laws against production of minor porn that doesn’t specify age, but can walk around the problem if it’s produced by a consenting party, of themselves, and without a big age difference.
The “problem” here (if you think so) is that if law enforcement in Germany gets to know about a case like this, they cannot choose themselves not to act on it.
Because not everyone lives in
Saudi-Arabia or Texasa country dominated by religious conservatives?ETA: I’m sorry. I shouldn’t have made it about specific countries.
ان شاء الله نحن العالم
So you’re saying you want to send nudes to minors?
If an 18 year old girl sends a spicy picture to her 17 year old boyfriend, that probably shouldn’t warrant the same reaction as a 15 year old receiving porn in her dms from some 40 year old stranger. Black and white thinking typically doesn’t lead to fair policies and implying that someone wants to creep on random children because they recognize that nuance exists seems a little disingenuous.
If the 17-year-old sends one back, that’s already a crime in many places. It could get him prosecuted for production and her for possession. If he uploads the picture to a chat group, the real fun starts.
The article says this is about nudity, not selfies. IDK how kids use instagram, but I’d guess that the senders are mainly kids sharing horny pics from somewhere else.
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