Hell yeah, time to get gored by a dear or something

New factorio dlc felt comically long, and yet I’m having to force myself not to make a new save.

Can’t believe you forgot New Zealand smh

All good mate, I like being able to go through this stuff from time to time because it helps me refine my own thoughts about stuff.

I definitely feel the same way about Abby, though I think it does get off to a rocky start by kind of cliffhangering the end of Ellie’s story. Still it did totally work in the long run.

I did have empathy for Ellie going into the game definitely. I think the game using that as a starting point and was incrementally raising her actions so the audience would naturally come to the conclusions she does at the end of the game regarding violence and vengeance. How effective this is might be dependant on the point the audience comes to these conclusions. I think it might just be the exposure to these kinds of stories I’ve seen, but I kind of got what the game was going for pretty early, and it felt like it just kept kind of bludgeoning me with the moral the longer it went on, like it wanted to bathe in the horrible mess Ellie was making. That was partially why I was hoping for it to be a subversion at the end I think? Kind of have it be a tragedy of character, kill Abby, and the forgiveness that she couldn’t give to another also means she deserves no forgiveness herself. As it stands it’s kind of there, but feels like it stumbles at the end, at least for how it hit for me.

I don’t think the narrative made too many mistakes honestly. The world building in general is great, the characters are believable, maybe just didn’t resonate with me personally.

I might actually replay it at some point to see how I digest it. I feel like I might be sort of out of step with this series anyway, I know people love the first game but I can’t get over the idea that the fireflies were just going to crack open Ellie immediately, like characters we know besides, that seems like an extremely bad idea to jump immediately to that conclusion. That’s something crazy mad scientists do, not actual medical experts or researchers. I try to just assume that it’s logical somehow in the logic of the world, I think the rest of that game is actually great, but that one thing keeps nagging at my brain. Anyway, tangent over. Hope you have a good day as well!

Yes, but as a theme goes it’s like putting too much salt in some food, at least for my taste. Don’t get me wrong, I do like a good flawed cast of characters, the theme in general is good, but the execution just didn’t land for me.

I think if I could empathize with the characters a bit better it might have landed a bit better? As an interactive medium I think the character you control and yourself needs to have some level of shared goals, or at least the ability to understand their actions. I didn’t feel that for 90% of the game, it was like watching a soap opera where the characters don’t act like people. I can forgive that of the main two in concept, who are powered by bloodlust, but frankly they don’t act enough like maladjusted revenge golems to make it believable to me that they’d continuously make these terrible decisions.

Something else was that the theme got a bit muddled towards the end in terms of revenge. The theme is that revenge bad, violence begets violence, violence corrupts you etc, but after Abby does her thing she gets such a glow up over the course of her campaign, both as a character and in her situation, that the theme feels mixed. Hell, for most of the time you could kind of forget that it’s Ellie doing all of this because there’s the internal politics and fighting completely unrelated to what’s going on. Very little of Abby’s issues actually revolve around the revenge issue. Without the theme being clear on this stuff it becomes muddy exactly what the point is, and it feels like violence for violence sake. Like someone was out to prove that humanity is garbage, instead of being a warning against doing garbage things.

I also can’t help but feel it pulls the assassins Creed 2 problem with forgiveness being learned. I think it’s a good theme in concept, but after spending an entire game mercing a bunch of people both tangentially related or unrelated, it’s a little hollow. Even then though, I could see it working, but the fight at the very end kind of ruins it for me. If she lets Abby get on the boat immediately, that works better because she made the conscious decision to forgive. If she actually kills Abby, funnily enough I think that also works. Seriously, for where the game has been the entire time I think her doing it, but the audience knowing it was wrong would actually go a long way towards making the game as a whole feel more cohesive. Hell you could have done a player choice at that point, and even that could have worked.

It’s something I’m still kind of thinking over to this day because it’s such a unique problem to encounter in a game like this. Again, I do want to like the game, it does a lot right, it’s a good game. But yeah, bit of a yuck thinking about it.

The entire game is largely about deeply flawed people continuously making incredibly bad decisions that are violently consequential. It’s not necessarily bad writing, and I completely get the theme that’s trying to be gone for here, but by god it’s a frustrating mess of a situation that only gets worse. I want to like the game a lot more than I do, because technically and gameplay wise it’s incredible, but I don’t know if I ever want to go through that storyline ever again. It fills me with a deep uneasiness just thinking about it.

Ah good, a whole new group of people get to experience this good but also wildly uncomfortable game.

Depends, usually I’m 100% fine if I’m in a cinema. At home completely fine unless I’m not feeling the movie. I don’t think I pull the trigger to watch something unless I’m absolutely into the idea which helps I think.

Fuck me, I just tried that and it’s so much easier. She’s on to something.

Well it kind of was what I was getting at in a way, though distribution of fault is pretty debatable. I think the majority of fault lies with the company putting a failable automated system into production for something this, but I can’t help but wonder if there is potential for abuse if this is all it takes for the registrar to delist a legitimate business. I guess I tend to come from the perspective that security is primarily on the service provider, because everyone using the service can and will either abuse or break shit in a spectacular fashion.

Penalities would be a good start I think, like you mentioned. Business sometimes can only understand the language of money after all. It’s possible this is the exception to a system that functions quite well behind the scenes also.

I also appreciate the benefit of the doubt on this, it’s refreshing compared to the usual internet instant rage.

It’s mainly a failure on the part of the register, if it’s automatically banning websites based on number of reports there’s a strong possibility this is going to keep happening, potentially for nefarious reasons.

This actually does happen a bit from time to time, it’s a bit of a weak point in the internet infrastructure.

Legit I thought this was about the assassin when I first started reading this.

So this isn’t explicitly stated in the movie at all. It’s only reasonable to assume such a wound would cause issues.

Some might consider it a plot hole, I think that’s more reserved for when the movie goes again it’s own internal logic. I’m pretty generous with movies in these situations, either the movie is running on its own logic set, like cartoon logic or superhero logic, or maybe it’s just a detail that could be explained, but it’s more effort than it’s worth.

For this example, you could totally put a scene in there where Bruce covers the wound with batbandage, hits himself with adrenaline or something, but the result is pretty much the same, and the audience is probably not going to be too interested if you explain everything.

So it’s a bit yes you’re right, but also a bit just go along with it if you can think of any logical explanation.

Not especially in that context, I would say the closest thing I use is “friends”.

Australia catches fire every half decade or so. Never had anything burn down because the RFS are fucking champions, but having it come near to your property is not uncommon here. When the big fires were going in 2019 we were wearing ppe at times to avoid the smoke inhalation. Wild times.

I beat the factorio DLC, right now that’s all I got and I’m clinging to that bad boy

I know Australia is American lite sometimes, but we also have most of these issues. Shit is going bad in a lot of places is my understanding.

What are you using now? I’ve been thinking of switching to popos but I’m keeping my eyes open for options.

I was actually wondering about magnesium, I might give supplementing a try. Thanks!

I feel that, when I was first on the stuff I did mistake the high for the functionality. When I did spend time on a lower dose, roughly 3-4 months, I kind of reverted back to being unable to get up and do things, my activation energy was completely shot. I think I was only surviving before medication because I was drinking a ridiculous amount of coffee.

As it is currently, it’s not really a high at all, just the standard stimulant response etc.