“Fcking bitch,” Jonathan Ross, the ICE agent who killed Renee Good, says in the video.*

A newly released cellphone video, apparently filmed by the ICE officer who killed Renee Nicole Good, and obtained by Minneapolis-based Alpha News, a conservative-leaning nonprofit news site, appears to sharply contradict the U.S. government’s public account of the fatal Wednesday shooting, raising new questions about whether the agent who opened fire was ever in immediate danger.

The footage was recorded on a cellphone by ICE officer Jonathan Ross, not by a department body camera. It captures Ross’s own perspective as he approaches Good’s maroon Honda Pilot during what the Department of Homeland Security claims was a federal operation in south Minneapolis.

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    Say the words. He called her a “Fucking bitch”. Stop fucking censoring language, especially over something like this. If the words offend you, GOOD. You should be fucking offended. (I know OP just reposted the articles censoring - this is directed at the article more than OP)

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      Crazy in the bottom video labeled CNN, you can see him walk in front of the car AFTER it started moving.

      Most people wouldn’t jump in front of a chef chopping with a knife then kill the chef for stabbing them. Idk why ICE thinks it’s a good idea to jump in front of a moving car.

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        Crazy in the bottom video labeled CNN, you can see him walk in front of the car AFTER it started moving.

        That’s the point. This was a manufactured killing. By stepping front of the car, he can deploy the South Park Defense: “She was coming right at me!”

        In her rationalization speech, The Puppy Killer mentioned how blocking ICE cars was an increasing strategy. What she didn’t say was that it’s been effective at slowing them down, and giving targets a longer head start to escape.

        It’s clearly pissing her off. Stephen “PeeWee Himmler” Miller is demanding 3000 scalps per day, and they aren’t even close. Shes probably getting her ass reamed by PeeWee every fucking day.

        We’re going to find out that orders came down to make an example out of one of the blockers, and this was the opportunity. This guy wasn’t new and poorly trained, he was a veteran officer with a beef against fleeing vehicles (he’d been recently injured in a vehicle incident because he behaved poorly and impulsively in that incident, too). He was exactly the kind of trusted operative that you could give an order like that to, and know it will be followed.

        Pakled Holman seemed surprised by this, so it probably wasn’t him. The order almost certainly originated with The Puppy Killer, but she was probably told by PeeWee to do something decisive.

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      It’s clear the only reason she backed up was to AVOID him. If she wanted him dead he would’ve been toast.

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        He’s actually lucky she wasn’t angled towards him because he chose that moment to make her slam on the gas.

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    Even if there was 4k 360° video of Renee being murdered by this scum the Trump administration would still side with the murderer.

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      An incident like this is great for MAGA. This is how you find who is truly loyal. The loyal ones will back your cockamamie story to the hilt, and parrot it loudly, often, and with conviction, no matter how indefensible it is.

      This separates out those who still have some vestige of morals that can still be reached by an atrocity. Those people are untrustworthy, and must be purged. They want people who will cheer when they massacre peaceful protesters.

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        Exactly right. I work with a bunch of ride or die maga dick riders and it’s been interesting seeing them over the last year. When the Epstein cover up started last year they all got really quiet and stopped talking about Trump for a good part of the summer and ends of the year. Then he bombed Venezuela and then Renee getting murdered has got them all foaming at the mouth for violence and killing now.

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            That’s pretty much what they said the day after the Venezuela attack. Another thing they like to say now is how we are all gonna be rich because of the cheap gas prices.

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              Here in Central Florida, the gas price pattern has been consistent for at least two years. It will drop down to about $2.90, maybe even a bit lower, and then on Monday or Tuesday, it will go up to $3.19 in nearly every single gas station in the area. Then it starts to slide down, and when it gets to around $2.90, it jumps back up to $3.19. Every time, for a few years now. Clearly, the prices are totally fixed.

              But lately, since affordability has become the most serious drain on MAGA chances in the Midterms, gas prices have been lower. I just returned from a trip over the Holidays, and has is down to $2.70, or even lower.

              Obviously, DeSantis is doing his part by forcing gas prices lower somehow, but rather than give him credit for helping out, that begs the question: If they could have lowered prices, why didn’t they do it before it started to get them into trouble?

              Immediately after the Vemzuelan attack, gas companies said that instability in the oil market was going to cause high prices (which happens anytime a dolphin sneezes near an offshore oil rig), and usually that means the very next fucking day. I expected prices to leap to at least $3.50, but they didn’t.

              Obviously, they are manipulating the gas prices, to fight the affordability issue. To counter that, I’d like to remind everyone that the average price of a new car is now over $50,000, with a monthly payment over $750. They are now offering 8 year loan terms.

              BTW, cars have now become a viable, and acceptable living option. I just read about a college that is building a parking garage for student living in their cars. They could have built a residence hall for them, but better to teach college students that living in your car is a good career strategy, along with taking out tens of thousands in student loans for an education that won’t lead to a single job.

              What were we talking about?

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              You should ask them about the peace prize and how he was going to supposedly be the peace president.

              I don’t really get how the conservatives that supposedly lost it over W and Iraq, but came back for Taco because “war bad” (yeah right) can keep all that cognitive dissonance straight?

              The fact is that W’s big failings on: the economy AND Katrina AND Iraq made them feel bad because liberals were getting proven RIGHT. They needed a brief timeout, pretended to be for the made-up astroturfed “teabagger” movement (later rebranded the “tea party” when they realized everyone else knew what teabagging meant, and it made them look gay, not like they were some alpha males getting one over on Obama) and there were a lot of very sudden “independents” among us. So they did that brief timeout thing, then came roaring back and went ballz deep on being a Republican when Taco gave them a permission structure to escape their culpability for all of W’s failings AND a permission structure to be openly racist, misogynist, etc…I don’t think they really give a shit about wars of aggression being stupid and a drain on our society, nevermind morally objectionable, they just hated that the liberals were all proven correct about Iraq.

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                They still call Donny the peace president and that he brought peace to the Middle East and he is saving America. It’s hard to have an opposing view when it’s just me vs 9 other people at my job. Most of the time I just listen to them and laugh to myself.

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                  It’s those types of situations where I put on my “just asking questions” mode, LOL. Stuff like “how does it count as ‘peaceful’ to be invading cities and states of America, using ICE? How does it count as ‘peaceful’ to be sending in people to kidnap another country’s leader? What would we do if another country did it to us? Donnie says he be glad to accept the Nobel Peace Prize from the winner of that prize, is that how prizes even work? Or is that just Donnie’s participation trophy? In what other case has anything like that ever happened, and the second-hand recipient of a prize ever considered a legitimate owner of that prize?”

                  It absolutely drives them nuts, especially if they expect to get a rise out of you. I don’t get mad, I don’t raise my voice. I don’t lecture or finger-wag. I just ask more questions; turn their answer around on them, ask them how that makes them feel, how they arrived at that line of thinking, how they personally think any of Taco’s worst behaviors and policies will benefit them as individuals in their everyday real, non-online lives, etc.

                  I do it mostly to plant seeds, though. People tend to just dig in more if you get oppositional. If you ask questions, and don’t get angry, it definitely changes the energy.

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            I have from time to time and they all say the same thing. “It’s all fake and a democrat hoax!” They are perfectly brainwashed cult members.

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        The goal of releasing the video wasn’t to prove the NKVD agent was innocent, it was to prove that the victim was a white liberal lgbt urban woman and thus deserving of death.

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    Yes, walking in front of, and behind a vehicle with it’s engine on SHOULD have made him feel danger. No one told him to walk in front of and behind a vehicle with the engine on, but if I’m wrong, and someone actually did tell him to do that, they’re the responsible party. If he made that decision on his own, it’s called contributory negligence.

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      And the fact that he circled the vehicle multiple times makes it clear he was trying to create a problem.

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    This is pointless. Even if she was aggressive and tried to kill this man, she’d be right to. This should not be able whether this Nazi felt in danger, they should feel threatened when they attack communities or random people. This video shows that peace is not an option with them. Consequences for chuds reduces their numbers significantly, they scatter when they realize they could actually get hurt.

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      Well, I’m not sure him feeling danger is relevant. Who cares? He put himself into the danger he felt.

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        Yes. That is what I said, except I don’t care if he even felt it. I’m saying they should feel threatened when they obviously do not.

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      they should feel threatened when they attack communities or random people

      i am sure this part has been taken care of, not really sure it is good news though

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        That this man felt there would be no consequences for murdering a person in front of a crowd is overwhelming proof that they do not feel threatened. They understood that they could commit violence, not the crowd.

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    We don’t need MORE proof. Insinuating we need any more proof gives a veneer of validity to the suggestion there is any doubt at all. This is typical right wing “inundate with bullshit” that leaves anyone with a shred of hope of having an honest discussion constantly scrambling to offer more and more proof while the fact is that the Right DO NOT CARE. They’re here to “win”; honesty, morals, truth, reality be damned.

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    “There’s a new video?! Well then…let’s invade…oh…I don’t know…Bermuda!?”

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    Not surprising that the evidence contradicts the administration’s claims, because they constantly lie.

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    This would have been true sooner than this point in the regime but this event is the flashpoint, if I find out that any of my relatives or family members are ICE thugs I would dox them in a heartbeat.

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    That video is tainted. No custody of evidence. The shooter had 48 hours to edit the video.

    Sync up the video /audio to thwle dozen others and see if things line up? How much time was removed from the phone?

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      If the video conveniently “proved” his claims of self defense, you’d have a point. But it clearly doesn’t. It shows he murdered her and his claims of self defense are a blatant lie. You’re literally arguing “well maybe it was self defense because the video could have been edited by the PERPETRATOR to not show it was self defense”. Like wtf?! You’re arguing that the dude purposely edited the video to make himself look worse.

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        Pro-ICE voices (not necessarily people) think that the video supports the white house claims. The leaked site is right wing, and Vance shared it saying people should watch it.

        It’s crazy that this video seems to be such a Rorschach test.

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          Yeah I’m pretty sure their take on it is “her gay leftie lover made him feel threatened”

          Aka setting the "don’t worry, she wasn’t ‘one of us’ " distinction for the MAGAtts

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        Im not saying the video proves innocence. It can be manipulated and still not help the officer. The fact is ICe/magazine arent the smartest people and I would challenge that video on the basis of custody alone.

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          And again, arguing custody would be arguing AGAINST the shooter. AT BEST, it would get the video thrown out and then we’d just look at the 4 other videos that all show the exact same thing. It literally doesn’t help, at all. It literally only would add a charge of tampering with evidence.

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          And it would be a dumb fucking argument considering the 3-4 other videos that all corroborate this one. Stop being retarded and proposing half-assed “what-ifs”. Besides the fact that him editing it would be tampering with evidence and IS ITS OWN CRIME. Yeah, he’s just gonna admit to illegally tampering with the video to make himself look worse to create reasonable doubt… when other videos clearly show the incident as well. Ffs, I know these people are morons but you’re taking the cake.

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              Yeah, I don’t subscribe to that euphemism treadmill bullshit. Maybe save your outrage for things that are actually offensive, like our government murdering people in cold blood, not fucking words. This neutering of our language is bullshit and yes, some things are fucking retarded and need to be called out as such. Trying to defend the shooter here is fucking retarded. I stand by what I said.

              And this is why liberals hate other liberals. Were discussing a fucking murder and you’re over here complaining about language. Unless you’re this perfect idealized liberal, other liberals will take the time to bring you down instead of the much more pressing and bigger issue.

              Seriously, fuck off with this retarded fucking shit. We NEED words for when things are so ass backwards and anti-logical. I’m not gonna sit here and wish that we “unalive the meanies”. Grow a fucking spine.

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                Few arguments:

                My cousin has downs, she’s retarded, but isn’t an idiot, she’s lovely to be around. Using a word that describes something she was born with to describe the negative choices someone has made is insulting.

                We do have other words to describe when things are so back-asswards and anti-logical. Hell, make up your own completely new word, use some creativity.

                Just because there’s a larger issue, doesn’t mean we should ignore a smaller issue, especially when the smaller issue is so fucking easy to solve. It’s like not cleaning your bathroom because racism exists.

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                It is immoral, ignorant, and shortsighted but i fail to see how it has anything to do with retardation. If you arent using that term clinically, which is antiquated these days anyways, then you are using it as a slur. Which is very unnecessary. I’m not mad but i do think our use of language matters. Your use of that word also makes you look shortsighted and ignorant. Your defense of it makes you also look immoral.

                Edit: my point being we already have much more descriptive words for this and the use of slurs makes you look just a ignorant as them.

                Now go make yourself useful and kill a fash

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      I think she feels guilty for egging them on and probably feels responsible to a degree. Also, probably listening to her lawyer about when / if to release it.

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        Also, probably listening to her lawyer about when / if to release it.

        I’d suggest it’s entirely that.

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        Yeah if I were in her shoes I’d save the footage for court. Don’t want the court of public opinion influencing jurors ahead of time.

        That is of course assuming he gets charged as he should.