• leisesprecher@feddit.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      16
      arrow-down
      6
      ·
      3 days ago

      As bad as the IDF is behaving right now, sinking civilian cargo ships isn’t exactly a good strategy for protesting these dead civilians.

      And shooting aimlessly at Israeli citizens also doesn’t help.

      The flag of the houthi literally says “death to the Jews, death to America”, if those guys are the ones you’re rooting for…

      • InfiniteGlitch@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        arrow-down
        7
        ·
        edit-2
        3 days ago

        You’re right but the first comment sounded to me as a justification for Israel to murder more innocent people (which I genuinely believe will happen).

        EDIT;

        if those guys are the ones you’re rooting for…

        Just because I’m giving a counter argument to someone, does not directly mean, I would support any of the sides. I notice an influx of this manipulation of words and comments. Kind of disappointed.

        That would be like me now saying “if those guys [IDF] are the ones you are rooting for…” just because you mentioned that Houthi’s are not the good ones.

        • leisesprecher@feddit.org
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          12
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          3 days ago

          If you oppose “killing innocent civilians” and “fighting back”, then that implies that the guys “fighting back” have a good reason and are therefore the good guys.

          Let’s be real here, the Houthi would have shot at Israel ten years ago, if they had the means. Gaza is just a justification for them. Again, they want to kill all jews. Not just Israel, all jews.

          • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            5
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            3 days ago

            Israel was fucking up Gaza 10 years ago (and 50 ans 70 years) ago so I don’t see your problem. Anyone in the Arab world who isn’t bought and paid for by the US would’ve shot at Israel at any point after 1948.

          • InfiniteGlitch@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            arrow-down
            8
            ·
            edit-2
            3 days ago

            I’m genuinely exhausted of Lemmy users trying to manipulate words and comments.

            If you oppose “killing innocent civilians” and “fighting back”, then that implies that the guys “fighting back” have a good reason and are therefore the good guys.

            This is just not true. A group can fight back despite being “the bad ones”. Houthis have long claimed that Israel is their enemy but they started to take down ships and such because of Israel’s murdering in Gaza (hence fighting back for the Palestinian people).

            Anyway*, like I said, I’m exhausted of the twisting words. So I will let it as it is.

            Let’s be real here, the Houthi would have shot at Israel ten years ago, if they had the means. Gaza is just a justification for them. Again, they want to kill all jews. Not just Israel, all jews.

            Houthis have sworn that Israel is their enemy long before this. So yes, of course they would attack Israel. No, they are not using Gaza as a justification because they announced Israel is their enemy long before the entirety of 7th October and Israel’s genocide.

            I will stop respond because, I’m about to sleep. After that, it is a new day and I won’t comment either. However, please, stop trying to twist and manipulate people’s comments. Debates can be respectful, meaningful and without manipulation.

      • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        2 days ago

        The “both sides” argument is as hollow as ever.

        It’s the genocidal zio invaders who are wrong. Always have been.

      • InfiniteGlitch@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        arrow-down
        7
        ·
        edit-2
        3 days ago

        Israel is actively murdering innocent civilians (men, women and children). Israeli strikes kill 33 people in Jabalia refugee camp in Gaza, medics say and that article is one out of hundreds.

        That is not fighting back, that is bombing and murdering random civilians

        The Houthis keep shooting at civilians. Pretty expected the world would defend their people.

        Your first comment (the one above) looks like it gave a justification for Israel to murder more innocent civilians.